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"A long sleepless night in excruciating pain."

About: Forth Valley Royal Hospital / GP Out of Hours NHS 24 / NHS 24 (111 service)

(as a service user),

I had been suffering from earache for a week and had been using drops for a week from pharmacy.  I’m in the extremely clinically vulnerable group as I’m highly immunosuppressed.

I had just had my infusion that lowers my immune system and within 48 hours my earache felt like I was having a stroke.  The pain is so severe I felt like I could pass out.  My ear was hot, and wet and the pain was radiating down to my jaw and my neck.  The skin in front of my ear on my cheek was completely numb and my head was about to explode.  I’m always advised by my doctors that if I think I have an infection to get medical help right away after a history of sepsis and opportunistic infection.

However, if it's not my usual GP then I have to phone NHS 24 and OOH. I feel like it could be made less stressful and a lot quicker. Every time I call I just feel like I’d be better rolling up in a ball and quietly dying in the corner. 

It was Saturday and I knew this infection was bad (I have 30 years experience of this by the way!)  So I called NHS 24 and waited about 40 mins on the line and got through to a nice call handler. They were efficient to be fair which was a first and delightful.  They spoke to a clinician and they said an OOH GP would call me back within 4 hours maximum.  5 hours later, I’m now in excruciating pain as I no longer have any prescription co-codomol left in my cupboard. (Paracetamol for this type of pain is like taking smarties). I am now running a fever and crying. I call back NHS24 and wait another 40 mins on the phone.

By the time the second call handler takes all my details and asks the same questions again I’ve now been waiting for a call back for 6 hours.  At this time pharmacies were still open and a simple electronic prescription to one of them for antibiotics and co-codomol would have taken 5 mins and I would have been more comfortable and jobs a good ‘un.  But no.

So the second call handler talks to another clinician for a long time and comes back to me and said that because my symptoms had gotten worse we’re going to get a different clinician to call you back.  In another 4 hours!! Yes thats right.  I’d have to wait another 4 hours even though my symptoms were worse and I’d already been waiting 6 without a call back as advised.  ‘Say what now??’ Another 4 hours?! To ‘maybe’ get called back.  This is the service of an immunocompromised patient with a severe and rapidly developing infection.

I expressed my disbelief and the call handler went back to the clinician for another 10 mins while my eyes watered with the pain.  They said that since I was not happy, they'd get someone to call me back within the hour.  Oh I see, so it's my fault for being ‘unhappy’.

I finally did get a call from a very jovial doctor from OOH.  No apology for not calling me back when they should have the first time.  I confirmed my symptoms (for the 5th time) and said they’d send a prescription for antibiotics to Sainsburys pharmacy which is now closed so I’ll have to let the infection spread and be in pain until the morning. I asked them for a prescription of co-codomal as this is what I have been previously prescribed and they said that I could buy my own at Sainsbury’s the 8/500 strength.  Charming.  I thought in Scotland prescriptions were free?  

I explained I normally get the stronger strength on prescription (they can easily check my records) and that I regularly take oxycodone for other pain but felt these were too strong to take for this type of pain.  Still they refused. You see, when you have been chronically ill with many complications for 30 years like I have you get to know what painkillers work best with what type of pain.  And the numb, earache and jaw pain radiating to my teeth and neck would have been made comfortable by  30/500 co-codomal.  Not 8/500 in a patient who is opiate with experience.  But what do I know?  They said I could see how I go and can always call back.  What?! Go through that ordeal and wait another 10 hours in pain while you call me back?  Great advice.  5 stars.   

I go now to enjoy a long sleepless night in excruciating pain.  

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Responses

Response from Shona Lawrence, Clinical Governance Lead, Nursing and Care, NHS 24 2 years ago
Shona Lawrence
Clinical Governance Lead, Nursing and Care,
NHS 24
Submitted on 01/03/2022 at 16:09
Published on Care Opinion at 16:09


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Dear tauruszk83

Thank you for sharing your very well presented experience via Care Opinion. I am very sorry to learn of your earache which sounds extremely painful and debilitating. From reading what you have written, you clearly know your own body well and knew what was required to manage and improve your symptoms.

Firstly, I am sorry for the wait time to get through to NHS 24. The demand on our service can fluctuate and, there are times unfortunately, when the call volumes increase which means that some calls take longer than we would like for their call to be answered. We absolutely understand that waiting an extended time is not a good experience, especially in your case, when you were in so much pain and discomfort.

From what you have shared, we recognised that you needed further assessment and passed your details to the local Out of Hours Team with a request that they contact you within a four hour timeframe. I see NHS Forth Valley have been tagged to your story to enable them to see and respond to the Out of Hours management of your care.

I sense your frustration at being asked the same questions by NHS 24, however as your first call to our service had been managed, we do review any further contact to ensure we capture any change or worsening symptoms a patient may be displaying. I am keen to explore your contact with our service in more detail, especially the management of your 2nd call. Given your health status, it would also be good for us to explore whether your NHS 24 electronic call record has a Key Information Summary (KIS) attached. The detail held on a KIS can alert NHS 24 clinical staff to a patient’s health status or any preferred actions their GP may consider helpful in the event of contact with NHS 24. Therefore, can I ask you to be kind enough to contact me directly on 07814 299944 or by email at Patient.Experience@nhs24.scot.nhs.uk

Thanks again for sharing your experience. I do sincerely hope you managed to get some sleep and that you are feeling much better.

I hope to hear from you further.

Take care meantime

Shona

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Response from NHS Forth Valley 2 years ago
Submitted on 03/03/2022 at 14:24
Published on Care Opinion at 14:24


Dear tauruszk83

We are sorry to hear about your experience in the Out of Hours Service. We recogniSe that it can be very difficult while waiting for support and assessment when you are in pain. Our clinicians work very hard to try and complete assessments within a reasonable timeframe. Sometimes however we are unable to do so and for that we apologise. Similar to NHS24 when demand fluctuates, we may not be able to meet timescales suggested by NHS24.

We always reflect on feedback given to the service and we will do so with your case and hope you are recovering well.

Kind regards

Karyn Webster

OOH Clinical Lead

Senior Medic ED

NHS Forth Valley

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