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"The system is broken!"

About: NHS 24 / NHS 24 (111 service) NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde / Flow Navigation Centre Royal Alexandra Hospital / Accident & Emergency

(as a parent/guardian),

After my daughter had an incident and couldn’t walk in her foot, we followed guidance and called NHS 24 instead of attending a&e. 

We waited on a call handler, then a nurse, then received a call back to go on a video call with virtual a&e advanced nurse practitioner (almost 5 hrs after the initial call was made). After this, we were advised an x-ray would be required and to attend our local minor injuries unit at RAH - no appointments are available at this hospital but as it was local we attended a&e.

Upon entering a&e, we were triaged by an extremely rude nurse, who told us this isn’t a children’s hospital, I was well aware of this & when I told her we were sent here by nhs24, she stated“they always tell you then, now you know for next time. We then spent 3 hrs in the waiting room before being seen by a 2nd nurse practitioner who finally sent us for an X-ray! Which showed a small fracture on my daughter’s foot and we left with a moon boot. 

Roll on 2 days later. we receive a phone call from a consultant telling us her foot doesn’t have a break at all, it is in fact a common issue with kids growth plates?!  What is going on?

I have so many questions…

What is the point in virtual a&e and NHS24 if we were to attend a&e and go to the back of the Que again? Surely, we could have went directly to X-ray? Is it any wonder people attend a&e first for accidents rather than waste time with NHS 24. 

Why were we sent a hospital that clearly isn’t suitable for children? After a misdiagnosis & the rude triage staff?

Why after waiting for 3 hrs, were we not able to have someone who is suitably qualified to look at this X-ray for a diagnosis? It may be minimal to some, but my daughter was extremely distressed after being told she would need a moon boot for 4-6 weeks, all for nothing?

I understand the immense pressure a&e services are under, hence why we tried to use other avenues to get support. However please remember A&E stands for Accident & Emergency! When someone has an accident that may or may not be life threatening they should be able to attend their local a&e and be treated with dignity and respect, no matter what. from my experience, NHS 24 is a waste of time so it’s no wonder people may misuse the services. Time to sort it out!

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Responses

Response from Gerry McLaughlin, Lead Nurse, Emergency Care and Medical Services, NHSGGC 3 weeks ago
Gerry McLaughlin
Lead Nurse, Emergency Care and Medical Services,
NHSGGC
Submitted on 04/04/2024 at 16:04
Published on Care Opinion at 16:04


Dear 20007

I'm the Lead Nurse responsible for RAH A&E and would like to apologise for the negative staff interaction you encountered when arriving with your daughter. Please allow me to explain in more detail how your Daughter's journey progressed once in A&E. I feel I can achieve this better by offering to speak directly with you by phone if you could please email me on gerry.mclaughlin@ggc.scot.nhs.uk with best day and time. I'll do my best to explain what happened and afford me the opportunity to share your concerns with my team.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Gerry

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Response from Karen, Patient Experience Officer, NHS 24 3 weeks ago
Karen
Patient Experience Officer,
NHS 24

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Submitted on 08/04/2024 at 13:14
Published on Care Opinion at 13:17


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Dear 20007,

Thank you for sharing your experience on Care Opinion. I am sorry to learn of your daughter’s foot injury and I do hope she is recovering well.

I note my colleague from NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde has responded to you regarding the Accident & Emergency Department’s element of your feedback. I reply in relation to NHS 24’s element which is the Call Handler and initial nurse that dealt with your call and referred you to your local Health-Board.

I would like the opportunity to explore your contact with our 111 service further. If you would be kind enough to contact our Patient Experience Team to provide some additional detail, we could look into this for you.

You can contact me or a member of our Patient Experience Team at Patient.Experience@nhs24.scot.nhs.uk.

Thank you again for sharing your experience. I wish you and your daughter all the best.

Kind regards,

Karen

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