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"Care during and following silent miscarriage"

About: Glasgow Royal Infirmary / Assisted Conception Services Maternity care (wards 68, 72 &73) / Early Pregnancy Assessment Service The Princess Royal Maternity Unit / Maternity care (wards 68, 72 &73)

(as a service user),

I experienced a silent miscarriage in August. I was told by a private scan on a Wednesday that I had experienced a silent miscarriage. I tried contacting EPU on the Wednesday evening to leave a message. However, the voicemail service was not available at all. I managed to get through to the voicemail on the Thursday morning I and received a reply late Thursday. I was advised I could not be seen until Monday, as the appointments were full.

I am understanding of the challenges faced by full waiting lists and staff shortages. But this was torture waiting for everything to be confirmed over 4 days. The Doctor at EPU even seemed surprised I had waited for 4 days.

I was advised of my options for management of miscarriage. Given the options and waiting lists at the time I opted for medical management.

I was advised I would be admitted to a ward and medical management would likely take the morning with discharge to home after lunchtime. I was given no written information away with me at this time. This would have been helpful to tell me what to expect and what personal items to bring. It was verbally explained but I will say that after the experience some details appear to be omitted. At the time I did not know if i would be on a 4/6 bedded ward or have an individual room or whether my partner could join me. 

The “few hours on the ward” turned into a full day. I was advised I could have a heat pack to alleviate pain and then advised there were none. Any kind of information leaflet away with me prior would have been helpful at this point, as there were physical things with medication that I wasn’t aware would happen. The nursing staff were very compassionate. But very busy.

I would like to say that my negative experience ends here. However, after my time on the ward I asked what would happen with antenatal appointments scheduled and was advised these would be cancelled. I continued to receive text and phone call reminders for appointments that should have been cancelled. This was really upsetting and it was a very distressing time. I tried chasing this up several times to be told that these appointments were cancelled. I understand technology can be tricky but I really don’t think it’s too much to ask that technology and text reminder services get updated. Or that someone takes responsibility for updating notes or using telephony to someone that can.

Again, I didn’t know what to expect in the time following a miscarriage. The only thing I was really told was that they would send products of conception to pathology and if I had any bad bleeding to phone the ward. I was very fortunate to be lucky that I did not experience that. But I didn’t know whether I should have received pathology results or not. I did most of my own research and found that postpartum symptoms were normal, such as a hormonal migraine (which I’d never had before). 

Managing patient expectations whilst this is going on would have been helpful; some written information; some advise on who to get in touch with. Miscarriage is a completely bewildering and isolating time.

Due to an ovarian cyst, I had a follow up at EPU and this was the most helpful appointment from all of them. The doctor took time to answer all my questions. Prior to conception, I was under the care of ACS. I had asked if I would be put back on their clinics, and the reply was that the doctor would write to them. Whether this happened, I do not know because ACS had no extra information. 

I spoke to ACS myself and had a telephone appointment the following month.

The ACS doctor was unaware I had had a miscarriage at all.

I missed a procedure with ACS due to my pregnancy and the specialist in charge was in contact to see if I was still pregnant/ see if this was still required. The doctor had requested this at my appointment a few days before. Why is there seemingly no record that my baby died?

The lack of communication is quite frankly alarming and upsetting. I feel like I have been a complete oversight and forgotten. This is not patient centred care. I feel frustrated and angry that several months after my miscarriage no one seems to be aware. I need to communicate this at the start of each appointment and go on further waiting lists. This continues now to be a deeply upsetting time. Which could have been avoided now that I am trying to get assisted conception back on track. 

The bottom line is - I didn’t want to post on a forum but I have no where else to turn and I have tried to speak to people involved in my care about this but have reached a dead end. Perhaps there needs to be some changes to the system. 

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Responses

Response from Victoria Mazzoni, Interim Clinical Services Manager, Obstetrics, NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde 2 years ago
Victoria Mazzoni
Interim Clinical Services Manager, Obstetrics,
NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde
Submitted on 15/11/2021 at 16:50
Published on Care Opinion at 16:50


Dear Sweetpicklemilk,

Thank you for taking the time to contact us and I would wish to express to you how sorry I am for your loss. I can identify though your post that there are aspects of your care which could have been improved and which further contributed to your distress. I appreciate that it would not have been your choice to use this forum to express your frustrations and am sorry that no one to this point has resolved or reviewed these for you.

From an EPAS perspective I have reviewed with the team and from September this year a voicemail facility was put onto this phone line to enable women to leave a message out of hours. This was following on from patient feedback like yourself and in an attempt to ensure there is more timeous contact. I was extremely disappointed to read that you then subsequently waited for 4 days until you were appointed to attend the department. This is not acceptable and within the usual 48 hours in which we would allocate appointments and we would be happy to look into the circumstances surrounding this in more detail. I would however again like to offer my apologies as I can fully appreciate how distressing this wait must have been for you.

I have discussed with the team why you would not have been offered one of our leaflets fully explaining the medical management of miscarriage. These were recently updated and there is a full supply within all of the EPAS departments within GG&C. As an action following on from your complaint the Senior Charge Midwives within these departments will monitor and ensure that all women are receiving these leaflets routinely and staff, including medical staff are fully aware of where to access them.

Women should never receive appointments following their miscarriage. I have reviewed this again with the team as we had recently changed this process to ensure that this could never occur. Text messages can take 3 days to be stopped however all patients should be advised of this following their diagnosis and prior to going home.

I appreciate that there are some other aspects of your care relating to Gynaecology and ACS which have caused you concern and I know my colleague Isobel Traynor, Lead Nurse will investigate this. In the interim I am sorry for your experience and that your care was not to the standard that I would have expected in our EPAS department. I would be more than happy to discuss this further with you should you wish to contact me directly on 0141 201 3336.

Kind regards,

Vicki Mazzoni

Lead Midwife PRM

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Response from Isabel Traynor, Clinical Services Manager, Maternity, NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde 2 years ago
Isabel Traynor
Clinical Services Manager, Maternity,
NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde
Submitted on 15/11/2021 at 18:26
Published on Care Opinion on 16/11/2021 at 09:22


Dear Sweetpicklemilk

Further to my colleague Vicki Mazzoni's response to your post please can I express how sorry I am for your loss and also for your experience in our services. We aim to deliver patient centred care and it would seem we failed to deliver this to you on this occasion and for that I am very sorry.

In order for me to investigate fully your journey please can you contact me by email at: Isabel.Traynor@ggc.scot.nhs.uk

I hope you have family and friends around to support you at this sad time.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Best Wishes

Isabel

Isabel Traynor

Lead Nurse

Gynaecology/Assisted Conception Service

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Update posted by Sweetpicklemilk (a service user)

Thank you both for your concise replies.

I have nothing to add, as I have said it all already. I accept nothing can be done about my care now. I hope this has helped to highlight the shortfalls. I am deeply saddened that it came to writing on a forum to get any answers or feedback

I hope that I do not require use of these services again, but I hope the appropriate changes can be made.

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