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"Poor experience with MH liaison team"

About: North Manchester General Hospital / Accident and emergency

(as the patient),

I recently attended North Manchester A&E and asked to see the mental health team.

I had just come straight from the crisis cafe, who recommended that I attend. Crisis Cafe was wonderful and assured me that they would write a good note in the GMMH system with their assessment, alongside the previous assessment I had with them earlier in the week, so that this would be available to MH Liaison.

This was important for me as I was having mental health crisis, I am also neurodivergent, and it is extremely difficult for me to verbally provide clear and full information to new people. Especially so in such an environment like A&E which is incredibly overstimulating.

I have also since read online that MH Liaison do have access to all mental health records and as part of best practice they ensure they understand the history.

There was nowhere for me to wait in A&E so the triage nurse said to wait outside in the garden. They said they would tell MH Liaison I was there and they would come and find me. This did not happen. I received a phone call asking why I had left. I had not left.

When MH came they asked me a series of questions of which all this information would have been accessable on the system. This was demographic information. They also wanted my Dad’s contact number and when I said I did not consent to any information sharing with my family they tried to insist I provide somebody else. When I said no, that they do not know what I am contending with and that I do not want them to, they said that is because I am managing fine.

This is problematic on several levels. It is actually indicative of increased isolation, far from managing fine.

I explained that crisis cafe have written a note and that there are a series of notes explaining my situation. They said that their job is to assess me and I needed to speak to them. By this point I was so distressed I could not speak to them and said I wanted to leave. They kept saying -  speak to me speak to me.

They took me back to the desk and spoke to the person there. I again tried to explain about crisis cafe assessment and they said that they are not crisis cafe and I need to speak to them and tell them what is happening for me. The person on the desk just shrugged and pointed to the door.

I am very concerned that this happened. There has been at least one previous occasion where MH Liaison have spoken directly to the crisis cafe practitioners which has been imperative in ensuring I could access appropriate care. This occasion they would not even look at the notes.

A&E is an absolute last resort for me and it was not made possible for me to access the service. It is most important to understand and work alongside people’s individual needs. This was disregarded and the impact is that I have now exhausted all my options to access support.

I did contact PALs, who said apparently they did not know that I am autistic. They did, as I shared this with them. It is also in my notes (that they seemingly refused to read). It should have also been clear to MH professionals that if somebody is unable to communicate, there is some kind of hidden difference and they need to accommodate that. 

Although PALs were nice enough in their response to me, it was clearly a stock, copy/paste we understand how you feel reply, with no intention of ensuring things are different next time. 

The impact of this is that I cannot access emergency MH support at the hospital closest to my home.

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Response from Richard Medway, Engagement and Involvement Officer, Manchester University NHS Foundation Trust last week
Richard Medway
Engagement and Involvement Officer,
Manchester University NHS Foundation Trust
Submitted on 25/07/2025 at 10:05
Published on Care Opinion at 10:16


Dear Patient,

Thank you for taking time to give your feedback on the NHS/Care Opinion website.

We are very sorry to hear about your difficult experience following your visit to the Emergency Department (A&E) at North Manchester General Hospital and the care you received from the Mental Health team. Please accept our sincere apologies that your experience did not meet the standard we aim to provide. All patients deserve high quality care, and we regret that this was not your experience during your visit.

Without patient identifying information, it is difficult to fully address all the concerns you have raised; however, your feedback has been shared with the teams in A&E so they can reflect on your experience and identify where improvements can be made.

We acknowledge that you were asked by an A&E triage nurse to wait in the garden, and you were informed someone will come and find you but that this did not happen and they assumed you had left. We expect our staff to update patients regularly and provide information. We are sorry that on this occasion it did not happen.

Please be assured that we take all feedback seriously and are committed to learning from patient experiences to improve our services. If you would like us to look into any specific A&E concerns in more detail, please do not hesitate to contact the Lead Nurse for A&E at kay.charlesworth@mft.nhs.uk.

Your feedback has also been shared with the Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) Manager, Mrs Crozier. She apologises that the response you received did not feel personal and did not indicate that your feedback would be acted upon. She has explained that she would not be able to investigate your specific case further without a bit more information and that she welcomes you to contact her at brenda.crozier@mft.nhs.uk to discuss in more detail.

Regarding the further issues relating to the Mental Health team, though this team operates in our hospital, they are managed by Greater Manchester Mental Health (GMMH) and are not employees of our Trust. Therefore, we are not able to address your issues relating to the Mental Health team. To register these concerns, you would need to contact GMMH directly at complaints@gmmh.nhs.uk. We apologise for this inconvenience.

We hope this response helps to reassure you that your concerns have been taken seriously. If you would like us to look into anything specific in more detail, please do not hesitate to contact any of the people named in this response.

Kind Regards,

Patient Experience Team

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